Our latest AMA came at one of the most important moments in Vanar’s history. The community has seen the new narrative, the Base migration announcement, the upcoming VANRY swap process, and th
Our latest AMA came at one of the most important moments in Vanar’s history.
The community has seen the new narrative, the Base migration announcement, the upcoming VANRY swap process, and the first look at Foundry and Genesis. Naturally, people had questions. What is changing? What is staying the same? Why Base? What happens to holders? Why expand supply? What happens to staking? And most importantly, what exactly are we building now?
Jawad and Ash joined Iffy to answer those questions directly.
The main message was clear: we are not walking away from what we built. We are taking the strongest parts of our technology stack and moving them into the ecosystem where they can get the most traction.
VANRY remains at the centre. Holders migrate 1:1. The team continues forward. The technology carries forward.
What changes is the focus.
We are moving from being defined mainly as a standalone L1 to becoming the on-chain economy for AI Organisations.
VANRY is moving to Base. Holders migrate 1:1, nothing shrinks at migration, and the team, tech, and work already built all continue.
The focus shifts from standalone L1 to the on-chain economy for AI Organisations, powered by Foundry, Genesis, AI workers, memory, payments, reputation, and real activity.
Supply expands to 10B to fund builders, partners, incentives, infrastructure, and ecosystem growth. Most supply is locked, new allocations vest over years, builder/partner rewards are activity-based, and none of the new allocation goes to the team.
Staking and the VanarChain launch pool will wind down. Stakers should unstake, claim, and prepare to migrate.
Exchange holders should wait for official exchange updates. Wallet holders will use the official swap portal. No DMs, no seed phrases, no unofficial links.
The migration is a technical move.
The bigger story is the new Vanar economy.
Read the full conversation below.
Jawad: The first thing I want to make clear is what is not changing.
VANRY is still at the centre of everything. Every holder migrates 1:1. Nothing you hold shrinks at the moment of migration. The team, the work, the technology, and everything we have built carries forward.
What changes is where we put our attention.
Over the last year and a half, we have been building an entire stack. We started with the blockchain, then Neutron, and over the last year we built multiple pieces around it: OCP, xBPP, Veil, Kayon, TEE-based execution, and other technologies that form part of a much bigger picture.
That bigger picture is AI Organisations.
Agents and payment rails already exist. You can see ecosystems like Base, Virtuals, Google, Visa, and others moving into agentic payments and agentic use cases. But the missing piece is not just another agent. The missing piece is the organisation.
That is what we identified, and that is what we have been building towards.
Everything around Vanar is now focused on AI Organisations. Settlement will happen on Base, because that is where users, liquidity, builders, and real traction already are.
This is not a random pivot or a rebrand. It is taking the strongest part of our offering and putting it where it can actually scale.
Jawad: A year ago, I said we had to stop pretending the L1 race was still the right game.
In technology, the same cycles repeat over and over again. When databases first came out, there were so many database companies and so many brands. Eventually, databases became infrastructure. They became plumbing. People stopped caring which one was underneath as long as it worked.
The same thing is happening with blockchains.
A handful of chains are capturing most of the activity, fees, liquidity, and builder attention. Below them, there is a cliff. Many chains raised huge amounts, launched tokens, and still failed to build sustainable businesses.
For us, staying as another L1 meant fighting for a shrinking pool of builders, grants, users, and liquidity. That is not where we can win.
Our edge was never being the 19th chain. Our edge is being early to what comes next.
The future is AI, agentic transactions, AI-native businesses, and on-chain economic activity. With AI Organisations and the stack we have built, we can compete in a place where we can be number one, instead of fighting to stay relevant as another isolated chain.
Standing still was the bigger risk.
Ash: Yes, it does.
We have done this before, and that is why we are confident now.
Back in 2022, we saw the NFT and metaverse narratives dying. We did not stay there and hope. That is one of the advantages we have as a team. We are small, nimble, and not burdened by big VC structures that stop us from moving.
We looked at the market and asked ourselves what we needed to do next. That was when we really started building out the technology that led to where we are today.
If you look at many of the projects from that NFT and metaverse cycle, they are gone now. Hundreds of projects from that period simply disappeared.
This is the same instinct again.
We have to go where the users are, where the builders are, where the revenue is heading, not where the last cycle told us to stay.
Infrastructure is consolidating. AI and agentics are clearly where the market is moving. We are not alone in seeing that. The biggest people in technology are talking about the same future: AI agents, one-person companies, AI-run businesses, and companies where humans manage teams of agents.
But most of that discussion is still abstract.
We believe we have built the stack that makes it real.
This is not moving away from Web3. This is probably the biggest upgrade we have ever made.
Ash: Everyone understands AI agents now. One AI doing one task.
But an organisation is the next level.
A real business is not just one worker. It has a team, roles, rules, shared memory, customers, payments, reputation, history, and management. It has people doing marketing, support, sales, product, operations, and finance.
A single agent does not have that.
It forgets. It has no real track record. It cannot be trusted with money on its own. It does not have a full business structure around it.
An AI Organisation wraps all of that together.
It is a workforce of AI workers, shared memory, tools to take payments, a marketplace presence, business functions, reputation, and a track record. It is the difference between hiring a freelancer for one job and having a company that shows up every day and gets better over time.
That is what a Vanar Org is.
Not a worker. A company.
Ash: The barrier has never really been the idea.
People in Web3 are already open to new ideas. They understand crypto, payments, agents, and new forms of ownership. The problem is what comes after the idea.
You might need a team you cannot afford. You might need skills you do not have. The person who builds the tech often cannot also do sales, marketing, support, operations, business development, and distribution.
The old path was painful. You needed capital, a network, maybe VC access, maybe the right city, maybe the right connections.
That means millions of people with real ideas never get past the wall. Not because the idea was bad, but because one person cannot be a whole company alone.
AI Organisations change that.
They give people the structure around the idea.
Jawad: A good example is the vibe-coding wave.
There have been millions of apps and projects created with tools like Lovable. But only a tiny percentage make money. Not because all the products are bad, but because most people who build those products do not know how to run the company around them.
They do not know how to do marketing. They do not know how to do socials. They do not know how to do business development. They do not know how to run support or operations.
Agents can do this work today, but most people do not know how to structure them into a company.
That is the primitive we are building.
Jawad: Base gives us what general-purpose L1s spend years trying to build.
It has deep liquidity. It has a large and growing user base. It has serious builders. It has native USDC settlement, which is huge for AI Organisations, because an organisation has to transact, pay, get paid, and settle.
It needs stable dollar rails that work.
Instead of asking users and liquidity to come to us, we go where they already are.
That is not giving up a chain. It is refusing to keep paying the tax of being isolated.
We would rather spend our energy on the AI Organisation stack, the part only we are building, and let Base handle the settlement layer because it is already strong there.
VanarChain does not get erased. It becomes part of our history, part of the trust layer, and potentially part of sovereign deployments where on-chain agentic memory is needed.
But it is no longer the whole story.
Ash: Base has also been very supportive.
They understand what we are building and they want real builders on the chain. Every agentic Org will be on Base, and that means bringing real applications, not just another wave of memes.
For us, Base stood out because they understand AI, agentics, payments, builders, and where this market is going.
Ash: For people holding VANRY on exchanges, in most cases you do not need to do anything.
We are speaking with exchange partners and explaining the migration, the process, and the reason behind it. Where an exchange supports the migration, they will communicate their own instructions and handle the process for users.
But I want to be clear: exchanges are trading venues. They do not own the project. We have to make the decisions that are right for Vanar and for the future of VANRY.
So the guidance is simple.
If you hold VANRY on an exchange, wait for the official announcement from that exchange and from Vanar.
Do not act based on screenshots, DMs, comments, or unofficial messages.
Ash: If you hold VANRY in your own wallet, you will use the official Vanar swap portal.
The migration is 1:1. Your balance does not change.
We will publish full dates, timelines, and guidance before anything starts.
The most important thing is safety. This is exactly the kind of moment scammers look for. They will create fake portals, fake links, fake DMs, fake contracts, and fake urgency.
There is no early migration.
We will never DM you asking you to migrate. We will never ask for your seed phrase. You do not need to rush.
Use the official portal only. Follow official channels only. If there is any doubt, stop and check.
Everything will be public and clear before users need to act.
Jawad: This is the question people will worry about most, so we have to be frank.
Every holder migrates 1:1. Nothing you hold shrinks on migration.
What changes is total supply, because we are building a much larger economy than the old supply was designed for.
You cannot launch an entire economy of AI Organisations, founders, builders, partners, infrastructure, Genesis rewards, and long-term incentives on a supply designed years ago for a smaller blockchain model.
The new supply is fuel to kickstart the economy.
If we did not do this, the whole thing would become a narrative play. It might create some short-term attention, but we would not have the tools to attract builders, support partners, incentivise growth, and make the ecosystem successful long term.
We are not pretending a bigger number is free. New supply vesting over time is real.
But this is not printing and dumping. The majority is locked at migration. New allocations sit behind cliffs and multi-year vesting. The largest pool is for builders and partners, and it is released against real measured ecosystem activity. Anything not earned stays in the treasury.
A bigger number does not create value. What creates value is what that number funds.
This funds the things that give VANRY a reason to exist for the next decade.
Ash: The new supply is 10 billion, and nearly all of it is locked. Tokenomics will be published clearly, including vesting and allocations.
The majority of this is reserved for AI Organisations and everything related to that economy.
And importantly, none of the new allocation goes to the team.
This is about growing the new economy.
Jawad: VANRY is everywhere in this system.
Every time you create an Org, VANRY is locked. Every time there is a transaction, VANRY is used. The system is designed to remove friction, so users may interact through stablecoins or other payment rails, but VANRY drives the underlying economy.
We are building far more use cases for VANRY than we had before.
The intention is also to burn and lock supply connected to real usage, instead of just sitting around and hoping for the best.
The goal is simple: build an economy where VANRY is connected to creation, usage, transactions, Organisations, and growth.
Ash: Validator staking and the launch pool on VanarChain will be wound down as infrastructure consolidates onto Base.
That is a real change, and we are not going to pretend otherwise. It was a commitment we made, and now we are ending it, so we have to own that.
The guidance for stakers is simple: unstake your tokens, claim them, and get ready so that when the official swap portal goes live, you can migrate 1:1 like everyone else.
Do not leave tokens locked in staking until the last minute and then scramble.
There are no penalties. Anything earned to date is being respected. Full guidance will be published before anyone needs to act.
So the message is: unstake, claim, and be ready for the official swap portal.
Jawad: Agents can do things, but they need structure to operate successfully.
The first thing they need is memory. That is why we launched Neutron. Every agent needs memory, and the Organisation itself needs memory.
If you talk to your co-CEO inside a Vanar Organisation, it should know what every worker did, what products were shipped, what support calls happened, what payments were made, what refunds were issued, and what the sales and marketing team is planning.
That is the corporate memory layer.
Then you need proof and reputation. That is Kayon. If agents are doing work, you need to prove what happened, when it happened, and whether it was done correctly. This is agent observability. It keeps the Organisation honest.
Then you need policy and spending controls. That is xBPP. Agents may need to spend money, but you do not want them blowing your budget. xBPP gives you rules, limits, approvals, and escalation. If something goes beyond the policy, it stops and waits for human approval.
Then you need secure delivery. That is Veil. If an Organisation delivers sensitive work, like incorporation documents or private outputs, those need to be encrypted and delivered securely.
And then you need secure execution. That is where Trusted Execution Environments come in. AI calls and decisions can run in an encrypted environment, so the Organisation can operate securely.
OCP wraps all of this together.
It is not enough to say we have five agents in a dashboard. A real AI Organisation needs memory, accountability, policy, secure delivery, encryption, payments, and reputation.
That is the stack we have built.
Jawad: Foundry is where you start.
When you come into Vanar, you have different doors.
You might have an idea. You might have a service. You might have a vibe-coded app. You might have an existing company or team and want to add AI workers to it.
All of those paths lead to Foundry.
Foundry is where you create and run the Organisation. It helps you stand it up, add your team, give agents real jobs, and use pre-built business apps so you are not starting from a blank screen.
We have built production-grade apps inside it: marketing, social, CRM, and more. The agents can drive those apps for you, or you can take the wheel whenever you want.
If you want a mascot, graphics, posts, a content schedule, a marketing plan, support workflows, CRM activity, all of that can happen inside the Organisation.
The point is that you can be completely autonomous, or you can take control whenever you want.
As a human, you are always in control. Anything meaningful, spending, big decisions, major actions, stops and waits for you.
It is not “turn it on and hope.” It is a company you direct, where AI does the work and you hold the wheel.
Ash: The key thing is distribution.
How do you get noticed? How do people find out about you? How do you understand your company’s voice, your ideal customer profile, your competitors, and what the market is saying?
Those are the things the marketing suite is built for.
The social team can create posts, graphics, visuals, and content. The business side can help with services, payments, and operations. The tokenization and bonding curve mechanics are also there.
You can chat with any part of your team, or just ask for a daily briefing. You can ask what everyone is working on, what needs your attention, and what needs approval.
That gives founders superpowers.
Jawad: Anyone who wants to build an Organisation.
You can start with an idea, a product, a service, or an existing team.
If you have a vibe-coded app, you can connect it to Vanar and build the business around it. If you have a service, you can turn it into something people can order and pay for. If you already have a company, you can add AI workers to it.
And if you are in crypto and understand crypto, you can create a product, service, or company directly on Vanar.
You do not need to go to Lovable or other tools first. We have built creation tools directly into the platform.
Ash: It also levels the playing field.
Maybe you do not have a co-founder. Maybe you do not have talent around you. Maybe it is difficult to build a full team because of your location, budget, or circumstances.
But if you have a strong idea, Foundry gives you a way to turn it into a real business.
Ash: Genesis is the first launch season for AI Organisations.
It is where the first serious AI Orgs come into the market together.
It is for builders, people already selling something, vibe coders, creators, agencies, and anyone who wants to turn what they do into an Organisation and compete in the open.
If you launch an Org through Genesis, you get launch credits to get started. We will surface you with visibility. There will be a leaderboard where Orgs compete based on platform activity. There will be Kickstart benefits. And there will be a 100 million VANRY reward pool for the top-performing Organisations.
But this is not about noise.
You get rewarded on activity. You get rewarded on delivery. You get rewarded on building reputation and track record.
Trading and volume can help, but proof wins.
You can pump something for a day. You cannot fake two months of work.
That is what Genesis is designed for.
Jawad: Everything will be published. We will explain the migration clearly, including dates, exchange support, timelines, and everything else people need.
The main thing I want people to understand is this: we did not blink.
The market got hard. A lot of projects went quiet or died. We chose to adapt and build the thing that is actually coming next.
We are still here. We are still building. And we are pointed at something bigger than the chain ever was.
We want people to come and build with us.
We have the technology. We are first. And this will be the next primitive for crypto, where real business gets done.
Ash: For holders, follow official instructions when the swap opens.
If you are on a CEX, follow the official exchange announcements. It also helps to publicly tell exchanges you want VANRY migration support, because they want to hear from their users too.
For builders, start thinking now about the Org you want to build.
Whether you have an idea, a product, a service, a vibe-coded app, or an existing business, be ready to show up early.
The migration to Base is important, but it is not the full story.
The full story is what Vanar is becoming.
We are moving from being defined mainly as a standalone L1 to becoming the on-chain economy for AI Organisations.
VANRY remains at the centre. Base becomes the settlement layer. Foundry becomes the workspace. AI Organisations become the product category. Genesis becomes the first launch season.
The next cycle will not be won by another chain fighting for attention.
It will be won by platforms that let people create real economic activity.
AI Organisations are Vanar’s answer to that future.
